Debate "Housekeeping" (03:33)
Moderator John Donvan frames the debate on whether the recent U.S. policy toward China is productive and introduces panelists.
Opening Statement For: Michael Pillsbury
Hudson Institute Director for Chinese Strategy and Senior Fellow, Pillsbury discusses productive policies from a Chinese perspective, including the One China Policy, one-on-one meetings, the termination of the U.S./China framework, president to president dialogue, and security cooperation.
Opening Statement Against: Graham Allison (06:38)
Harvard Kennedy School Douglas Dillon Professor, Allison states that China is the defining issue in foreign policy. The Trump Administration has not advanced American interests. He quotes comments from the opposition to support his position and cites three questions to consider.
Opening Statement For: Kori Schake (06:23)
International Institute for Strategic Studies Deputy Director-General, Schake states that the Trump Administration's general sharper-edged approach to China is correct. International middle powers are taking more responsibility for outcomes and Trump is resetting China's perspective on engaging the international order.
Opening Statement Against: Jake Sullivan (07:04)
Former Vice President National Security Adviser, Sullivan states that the Trump Administration's tough approach is not productive and not good enough to guide foreign policy. He cites four areas where current policy is counterproductive.
Denuclearized North Korea (07:34)
Donvan summarizes opening statements. Allison believes the Trump Administration's policy makes it more difficult to deal with North Korea; Schake counters with actions by Pat Shanahan. Panelists reflect on Chinese actions.
President to President Dialogue (06:22)
Sullivan argues that a process is only productive when generating results and the Trump Administration's China policy is not unified; Pillsbury cites results. Schake and Allison agree that Trump's behavior puzzles the Chinese; Allison finds it dangerous.
South China Sea (05:58)
Pillsbury argues that the Trump Administration does not identify China as an enemy. Sullivan states the administration has closed avenues of cooperation and widened competition. Schake argues that China's approach toward American interests is a result of feelings of entitlement.
China Tariffs (03:06)
Schake believes tariffs could be beneficial in the long-term. Allison agrees tariffs can produce results but the Trump Administration's tariffs are promiscuous.
Q/A: U.S. Interest in Pakistan (01:52)
The Trump Administration's approach toward China has enhanced interest; China supports non-proliferation of nuclear weapon designs.
Q/A: Tariffs and GDP Growth Rate (05:07)
Proponents argue that China's GDP has been cut by 0.5% and that uncertainty is beneficial. Opponents argues that the reduction rate is not significant long-term and that the bilateral trade deficit with China has increased.
Q/A: Tail Risk of Conflict (07:32)
Pillsbury references Allison's book "Destined for War." Schake cites the only peaceful transition between a rising power and a ruling power; the U.S. government should press harder on values issues. Allison states that wars often happen as a result of a third party's actions.
Q/A: Chinese Students Studying in the U.S. (04:05)
Schake acknowledges that Trump Administration policies are not productive, but the U.S. maintains a dynamic on immigration. Sullivan cites a loss of talent with immigration policies. Panelists discuss the national security risk of Chinese students.
Q/A: Model Government (05:13)
Schake states that despite current American politics, open discourse is a good example; she cites Hegelianism. Sullivan argues that the ability of the U.S. to show a democratic free market is more appealing and has a superior moral authority over other systems has declined.
Closing Statement For: Pillsbury (02:13)
Pillsbury includes the Obama Administration in current U.S. policy and cites its approach to China and the South China Sea. The U.S. is on the right track.
Closing Statement Against: Allison (02:46)
Tariffs, increased national debt, and supply chain interruption weakens U.S. economic positioning. The U.S. is missing areas of cooperation with China and the country's strength is weakening.
Closing Statement For: Schake (02:50)
President Trump's behavior is not the reason countries are not rallying with the U.S. to contest China's breaking of international order rules. Countries are taking more responsibility for their own outcomes.
Closing Statement Against: Sullivan (02:21)
The Trump Administration's policy toward China is productive for China and counterproductive for the U.S.
Time to Vote (06:12)
Donvan instructs the audience to vote and thanks panelists for their participation. Panelists reflect on national security threats other than China.
Audience Voting Results (00:59)
Pre-debate For: 26% - Against: 51% - Undecided: 23% Post-debate For: 15% - Against: 83% - Undecided: 2%
Credits: The Recent U.S. Policy Toward China Is Productive: A Debate (00:10)
Credits: The Recent U.S. Policy Toward China Is Productive: A Debate
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